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The "comic book hero" was the only one of your three diversions I've actually seen and had a comment on, RL. Your goshawk show is "not currently airing" according to the link you provided, which I dutifully followed, and the other I'll probably watch just for Bernard Hill. Because he's Theoden. |
Joe 2012-06-26 10:35:00
Okay, RL... As Donald Pleasance said to Isaac Hayes in "Escape from New York:" You're the Duke! You're A-numbah one! Now, don't let me distract you any further from your mission. Also, henceforth I will be self-censoring and will only write "M*gic U*derwear" in order to spare the feelings of the offended. I offer my mea culpa to the Gods of Instapunk, lest they smite me with anathema sit... |
RL 2012-06-26 09:36:00
Not pointing fingers here, but it's interesting that I mention three diversions, and the only one that gets commenter juices going is another comic book hero. My log in the water. Thor was the silliest of my three diversions. The small County Clare movie was much better. The goshawk documentary was sublime. But look at what we're talking about now. The real boon of Brit actors is that they somehow always have time to make The Boys and Girl of County Clare. Where Joe goes wrong in assessing (or trying to) what I'm up to in any particular post. I did have a topic sentence: "Raptors in Crisis: Can you fledges fly?" I had content: all the pundit drivel that distracts us from what is important. Not free association but an allusive compilation of ways the MSM seeks to distract us from the important stuff. And then, set off by a row of asterisks, a test of our priorities and focus. Could you pick the thing that matters from the dross? Would you go for the dangling shiny object, which is what 24/7 news is all about, or the thing that speaks most directly to what life is about and what it says about our politics? Fail. |
apotheosis 2012-06-26 08:21:00
Weird thing about Captain America...Chris Evans was the only thing that made the Fantastic Four movies tolerable, when I expected Michael Chiklis to be the redeeming feature. |
RL 2012-06-26 06:48:00
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apotheosis 2012-06-26 06:22:00
Maybe Edda meant "whitest" in the sense of purity or incorruptability. Whatever, I liked Idris Elba. And for reasons I can't explain my daughter is madly in love with Tom Hiddleston (Loki). I thought he was a whiny little wuss, myself. Oh boo hoo, I was brought up by loving foster parents and treated as family, surrounded by lavish excess and praise, but I don't get to be king like I would if I was an ice giant so FU all, I'm gonna throw a demigod tantrum. What a little bitch of an antagonist. He was in Avengers, too. If they hadn't been at each other's throats for most of the movie there wouldn't have been any conflict worth carrying 2 1/2 hours of film. |
Joe 2012-06-26 04:30:00
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RL 2012-06-25 07:51:00
Of course I spent most of my consulting career teaching. And acting like it was working. For more money than teachers usually make. Probably because I was better looking than you. Life is not fair. |
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Joe: What I said, I think. Those who can do. Those who can't teach. Or they become actors. But they're probably better looking than you are. |
Joe 2012-06-25 06:33:00
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RL 2012-06-25 05:30:00
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RL- I know how to write persuasive paper, and give it to you in MLA format with footnotes and citations. I don't see how my mentioning of the laughable casting of Idris Elba translates into 'resentment.' I, like a lot of people, thought Tom Cruise was miscast in "Interview with a Vampire" for instance, but I don't have him on the dartboard in my den. I enjoyed Elba on "The Wire." Maybe my thoughts here are scatter-shot, but your post also seemed to be a free association ( i.e. listen to the Bangles, here check out these movies, Mid-East update, and by the way Bill Maher is still a tool). If I present the same sort of tangential hodgepodge in posts where there was a clear theme, then guilty as charged. Otherwise, my only response to your critique would be a...wha? |
RL 2012-06-25 02:21:00
Joe: What you need to work on: A point. I appreciate your newfound desire to be civil. But I keep reading your comments and arriving at: Whah? Writing lesson. Topic sentence -- what I want to convey. Content -- the substance of my argument. Facts preferable to anecdote, a CHAIN of reasoning rather than isolated reasons. Then the conclusion -- why what I've said proves my point. Kind of the opposite of whah? And all the detours are a waste of time. I made the point about politically correct Thor adequately. You didn't have to specifically resent Idris Elba. Everybody gets it. Biggest question. Why do you feel compelled to keep pounding on obvious things? Nobody here is interested in obvious things. We know obvious things. We're more interested in interesting things. Is everybody else you know stupid? When you announce obvious things to them, are they impressed? Really? I ask this because you show signs of being smart. But you're so heavy-handed. I've seen signs of more than that, but then you thud thud thud. It's like you think debate is a Mike Tyson fight. It isn't. You won't hammer anyone here into submission. You gotta fly a little. And think about what "fly" might mean. Flexing doesn't do it. Try to find the Smithsonian doc about the goshawk. Another way to learn how to write. Not trying to give you a hard time. Trying to be your friend...
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Joe 2012-06-25 01:37:00
"Thor. An entertaining movie, which is actually endearing for its determination to convince us that Norse mythology is neither Celtic nor Nordic." You mean Heimdallr, who the poetic Edda describes as the "whitest of the Gods" didn't actually look like Idris Elba, the black guy who played him in the movie? Re: Arizona's immigration Laws, let me dust off a criminology text and see if I can make hide or hair of this thing. Ah, here we go: "No matter the reason for detention, a person must show personal and vehicle identification and comply with an officer...unless of course the officer asks her to commit an illegal act...although [you] have a right to protection against self incrimination, [you have] no right to refuse the officer driver's license and vehicle identification." "Detention" can include a routine traffic stop. You're technically not under arrest, but try driving off and not even Eric Holder could Macgyver you out of justice. How did this even get to be an issue? Even liberal laureate Paul Krugman said you can have universal healthcare or unchecked mass immigration. I'm not for either but they don't even want to pick one! Meanwhile, Estonia's one of the only European nations running a surplus (have been for 2 years) and their policy has basically been "do the opposite of what Paul Krugman says in his weekly op-ed."
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