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RL  2012-12-04 09:00:00

Joe:

There were also wives who refused to leave their husbands. Ida Straus, wife of Macy's tycoon Isidore, refused to get into a lifeboat. Instead she gave her mink coat to her maid ("I won't need it anymore") and put her in a lifeboat. The elderly couple were observed to go down with the ship embracing tightly.

There has been such a thing as human nobility.



Joe/Joseph/Yusef  2012-12-03 03:57:00

R, I'll start on the "Boomer Bible" tonight, but you might want to take a look at this:

"http://whiskeysplace.wordpress.com/2009/08/09/the-pittsburgh-shootings-and-the-question-of-violence/"

It's not so much tangential as deeply related to your acknowledgement of biology/morality/common sense being subverted in our latter-day Gynocracy. In brief, in the days of what they might call the chauvanistic patriarchal hegemony (or whatever Marxist boilerplate), men were willing to give up their seats on lifeboats on the Titanic so that women and children could be saved. The article has the percentage of survivors, and though I can't remember it off-hand, the ratio is heavily tilted in favor of women vs men. The subtext is clear. When women respected men, men were willing to die for women.

Contrast that with the case of the man who shot and killed 14 women at Ecole Polytechnique in Montreal. The killer told the male students to leave the classroom, and not one of them jumped up to try some chivalrous derring-do on behalf of the maidens. They did as they were told, got up and left the room, partly because a man with a gun told them to, but mainly because that was what Canadian PC society and its matrons told them (at some level) it was right to do.



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